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  1. OK, just started my first litre. Deviating a bit from my usual method: downed 400ml in one go. No urge yet, but will probably have an urge quite soon as I've been drinking steadily already just in the course of the day, so am already well hydrated.
  2. Got some university reading to do today. Also just tested a drynites 8-15 (I'm in my late twenties, but petite, so they fit perfectly) and it holds a full bladder, peed full-stream-ahead, without significantly leaking (literally four drops, even when palpitated to check if it 'wrings' out with pressure). So lunch, then 2L of fluids, then attempt to hold until I wet (or until I'm disturbed; I don't want to be discovered!). Will also abort if I lose heart or if I feel any pain or anything that makes me feel I'm straining myself too much. Will check in later.
  3. Akuji9, yes I studied biology at university, and applied what I learned about the urinary tract to omorashi, out of a mixture of interest and self preservation. :) I also think it helps the rest of the world understand the omorashi fetish if they understand that we know the dangers, and how to counteract them. It's the same with anything you do in life, I think. Instead of just "OMG holding your pee can make you DIE!" Which is just ignorance and unease on their part - so can base-jumping and people do that, and you don't hear people tell base jumpers: "OMG, jumping out a plane can make you DIE!" They assume there are safeguards and it's a thrill the person gets, even if they wouldn't do it themselves. How is omorashi, safely practiced, different from that in principle? And Barlax, it might do by increasing the volume of urine produced, but might make the unwilling accidents more painful too due to overfilling and under-wetting - and also would increase the risk of rupture because of sluggish empty-reflex. Sorry to be a party-pooper!
  4. Hi, well if you downed the 2L in one go and then started the timer, that would be what it was :) As for your question, well I suppose it depends on your alcohol tolerance levels! Yes, it would make it harder to hold, but I wouldn't recommend it for several reasons: 1. Alcohol is a diuretic which means, when drank in large quantities, it will seriously dehydrate you. Not good for hangovers, or for the body - a friend of mine ended up passed out in hospital with a drip, not, I think, from drinking past his alcohol limits, but from collapsing from dehydration. 1 pint (500ml) per hour would probably be ok, if alternated with 1 pint of electrolyte solution per hour too, since it takes 1 hour for 1 unit of alcohol to clear from the liver. I reckon this would probably stave off hangover aftr pub nights anyway. 2. More seriously, alcohol is a muscle relaxant - including of the bladder. It also dulls nerve sensation, and can make you sleep through pain. Put together, this may mean that you fill your bladder past rupture point without noticing, and it can't empty because it can't contract. You run the risk of either UTI from an incompletely emptied bladder, or even bladder rupture - there have been a few cases of that in such scenarios. 3. Nerve sensation is part of the thrill, is it not?! Better to keep nerves fully in tact, and the crescendo of feelings too. Plus, a strongly contracting bladder to battle against is also part of the challenge. So I'd stick with non-alcoholic, both for safety, and for the fullness of the challenge (no pun intended).
  5. SO happy right now! Didn't actually think I would ever manage this. It's not that I want to leave desperation behind - far from it - but for a long time I have dearly wanted to at least have the option of climaxing without a full bladder. I mean, I don't want to have to rely on my bladder pushing itself to its limits to get that feeling - i go through crazes of wanting to orgasm a lot and then not so much. Doing so too often could damage my bladder permanently if bladder fullness is the only way to achieve it. Some basic info: - I am single, and am not that turned on by anything to do with sex, fliratation or romance, though I would love a close and tactile (no snogging, no stripping, cuddling and hand holding and co-sleeping but no sex), David-and-Jonathan (in the wholly platonic sense) one-to-one, living-together type of life partnership with the right person. - I am, however, very turned on by bathroom desperation - both omorashi and scat desperation. Hands-free holding especially, and holding up to and past the last moment, to where release happens *despite* huge efforts to keep it in. Vocalisations in the course of this turn me on too - not contrived sounds, sexual sounds, or swearing or blaspheming, and not as much actual words, but laboured breathing, breath-hitching and involuntary moans or grunts. Especially love when a person is using both their hands and suddenly has to stop everything to give full attention to holding as the desperation ramps up. - Before now I have never been able to orgasm without a very full bladder, and even that is unreliable. To get to climax point I have to have built up to it by watching several desperation videos whilst getting really full myself, pelvic rocking, hard clenching of that muscle and at just the right time, elevating my pelvis whilst pressing down hard between my legs. Then it kind of feels like the edge of a sword blade suddenly catching the sun - which is the point of no return - before topping and going over the crest of a wave and then being pummelled rhythmically from the inside out, but in a good way - like I'm a lump of dough being kneaded or something. And I can extend it and trigger more pummelling by holding my mind in the right place and stroking the right places, but eventually I max out and the 'kneading' stops, leaving me very sensitised and gently pulsing - a feeling which fades over time. - I've never managed to climax twice in a row this way. - Until now, I've never felt an orgasm without extreme desperation too. - I have mixed feelings about orgasming. I LOVE the intensity of it, and of the loss of myself in pure sensation. But I don't have very strong orgasmic pulses, and the emotion of it is far more rooted in desperation than it is in love or even happiness. Love and happiness give me much more emotional pleasure - which I prioritise higher than physical pleasure. So far I haven't found much real emotional pleasure in orgasm, but I'm working on it. For these reasons it took me a long time to recognise that what I'm bringing myself to actually IS an orgasm - I had to research physiological processes that happen during orgasm, and get psychosexual counselling. As you can see, it takes a lot of very specific mental and physical stimulation from inside and out, over a long period of time, to get me to orgasm. I've wanted to do it more frequently, but don't want to have to go through the whole desperation rigmarole every time, so I've been exploring, taking note of feelings and what brings them about, and practicing getting into 'the zone' without a full bladder. Today, for the first time ever and totally unexpectedly, I managed to orgasm with an empty bladder. I was actually watching scat desperation/accidents, and started to feel aroused, but every time I nearly got to the sword-sun moment, I kept thinking "hey, this is so strange! I'm finally about to orgasm without a full bladder!" and it took me out the zone. Finally I managed to just lose myself in it, and climaxed at the point of involuntary release depicted in one video. It didn't feel the same as with a full bladder - full feels like jumping on a fully inflated bouncy castle whereas empty feels more like jumping on a slightly deflated one, if that makes sense. And the muscle contractions aren't so much like "POW! POW! POW!" or warm water rushing over me (how I imagined they might be), as like a fish tugging on the end of a line. But at least now I know I can! And I know what it feels like - which sensations are full bladder and which are orgasm! At least I now know what I'm working to cultivate!! Just had to tell someone!!!
  6. These are my general safety rules: 1. No sitting astride anything, sitting on your heel or plugging/tying off your urethra with anything. If the bladder becomes too full, if unblocked, it will empty involuntarily. Better that than rupture or damage. 2. Empty your bladder fully before beginning the challenge. Then you know that what's going in is dilute and won't remain in for long - thus reducing the risk of infection. 3. Don't drink more than 1L of pure water per hour, and drink a maximum of 1L of pure water per hold. Pure water is hypotonic, and if you drink more than 1L per hour your kidneys can't flush out the excess water, which actually gets drawn into your brain by a process of osmosis, causing brain cells to swell and rupture. This is called water toxicity. Not only that, but drinking lots of fluids washes electrolyes out of your body. Key ones include potassium - which is needed to generate the electricity which makes your heat beat; so drinking too much pure water all day for several days can actually lead to sudden, unexpected cardiac arrest. Instead, use an electrolyte solution which - that way you're making sure your body always has the electrolytes it needs, and there won't be a concentration gradient - which is needed for both water toxicity and electrolyte leaching to happen. Electrolytes also go through the body faster than water too due to their not having to take extra time to reach the optimum osmolarity - so you'll have a more immediate effect. 4. Rest your bladder for at least a day after doing a long hold. That way any minor damage or weaknesses incurred have time to be repaired before you hold again, and you'll get a hold which is more pleasurable than it is painful. A good electrolyte solution is 8tsp of table sugar, 1/2 a tsp of 'lo' salt, 1/2 a tsp of regular table salt, and a pinch of bicarbonate of soda, diluted in 1L of mineral water. I think this is the best electrolyte solution, as it replaces all the electrolyes washed out of your kidneys in the process of urine production. Although it might not taste that good. Closely followed would be coconut water, which is also isotonic and has a broad range of electrolyes and minerals used by the kidneys. Or you can use dioralyte, oralyte or pedialyte, all of which are isotonic and may have a better flavour - but which don't replace potassium quite as well. Or you can use lemonade (again, doesn't replace potassium as well). 1.5 cups of lemon juice to 2.5 cups of water, with 1 tsp of honey added in. The citrus contributes electrolytes. Perhaps the best tasting solution would be flavoured dioralyte powder, diluted in twice the volume of coconut water as the instructions call for (otherwise the total concentration will be twice as hypertonic as required for an isotonic one).
  7. Well, I drank 2 litres over the course of 2 hours, without going to the bathroom, then held for a further hour. But if you were going to drink the two litres all in one go (and I really don't recommend that because of water toxicity issues, unless you make an isotonic or hypertonic electrolyte solution), then I'd say drink the whole volume over as short a timeframe as possible, and then start the timer. Please update here with what you did and how you got on!
  8. Thanks, Raven! i'm not sure which is nicer - the having to pee or the climax; both work together. Beatrix, having said it's very nice, I have mixed feelings about it too. I can't climax without a full bladder, and even with a full bladder I don't have an 100% reliable formula for climaxing. The only way it sometimes works involves a semi-reclined position on the bed, an Xtube video of someone holding and losing it, and a lot of squirming to sort of massage my G-spot from inside, as well as tensing up and arching my back at the right time, holding with my hand (ironically), and pressing down really hard at the same time as clenching. Hard to explain. But it means I've never climaxed without having a very full bladder. And even then, my climax reflex is relatively weak; I only know it's a climax because I've researched the sequence of physiological changes and events that constitute it. But am getting more of a handle on it now. There are things I like to do better though - I happen to believe in God, and find spiritual ecstasy to be the sum of at least ten climaxes. Not trying to preach or boast or be holier-than-thou or anything, just is the truth for me about how it feels!
  9. Hi everyone! First off, I’m SO sorry about suddenly disappearing – the internet cut out. But I can report that I made it – JUST – to my target time! By the end I couldn’t really open my eyes (any input triggered spasms of urge), had no clench room at all, and was having to pant constantly or else breath very thinly and slowly. Really wanted to sit on my heel, but that’s against my code of practice (along with sitting astride things or plugging with something), because it doesn’t allow the bladder to release when it needs to in order to prevent rupture. Lost a couple of drips (not trickles, dribbles or spurts though!) in the last two minutes. Also, to complicate things, had to take a phone call from a family member about ten minutes before target time, so had to sound normal and like I had it together. THAT was hard – was sort of wiggling from side to side to keep it in – but was probably nicer in manner than I would be without having to go so badly; when I’m trying to cover something up and be ‘normal’ I tend to overcompensate! As I got to the toilet I felt the muscle give in, and there was a small trickle, but so small I didn’t get anything wet – got everything off just in time and went full on for about 45 seconds, then in a trickle for another thirty seconds or so. Right now I feel SO good! Warm and fuzzy. Not doing that again for at least another week, to allow my bladder and pelvic floor, as well as valves to kidneys, time to recover. But in the future – and I’m sorry if this is a disappointment to anyone – I probably won’t hold to brink-of-wetting point. I’ll hold to orgasm point, which feels a bit like brink-of-wetting point but isn’t. Then after climaxing I’ll go. The orgasm feels marginally better than what I experienced today. And now, having a different sort of pee. Got some peas in a bowl and am eating them with salt and butter. Yum! :)
  10. Thank you! May not reply to all posts now as concentrating too hard on holding, but will try! I still have a little clenching room when totally relaxed so I have a few mls to spare. NARRRRRRGHHHHHHHH...Oh, another...I...
  11. I may fail too. This is SO HARD. How anyone can hold 2L for 3 hours???!! It is just about within sights now though. And I too will bolt to the bathroom rather than pee right here, due to being in the family house and not wanting to let others know what I am doing. At least, I hope I can make it to the bathroom...
  12. John, are you still holding??! Ah, sorry, just seen! Reading now.
  13. No leaks! I want all of it inside me until the final gush! OOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo. It's like weight-lifting now. I'm not losing control of my bladder yet, but losing control of my control of the urge!! (and fine about knickers on, but light coloured if possible!)
  14. Raven - kindred spirits!! I hope you post a video soon - I'm oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo very much an anonymous videoer/photoer but would love to trade videos of this!! Preferably knickerless close up, shaved, for full view. But that may be a step too far, I dunno?
  15. Oh my, suddenly I know there is no more room. I am completely full. Fully stretched. All the clenching and squirming in the world won't change that. But going to keep on going - I will not surrender! I still have half an hour to go!
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